G'day all interested in the plight of captive Mandarin Dragonets.
First of all, let me say thank you to all who sent in their responses, it was
a great effort, and I was able to use 40 of the 47 responses that I
received. Albert Thiel's list gets the prize for the most respondents. The
7 responses that I wasn't able to use were discarded because they were:
only general responses and not direct answers to the questions in the
survey
were references to Mandarins that they had not personally kept
were responses from LFS that did not have long-term experience with all
the Mandarins that they were basing their data on
There were a number of questions that I immediately wished I had asked as
soon as I started getting results of the survey back. Some respondents also
suggested some questions too. They were:
What sex was the Mandarin you kept?
Does one sex seem to take more readily to prepared foods than the other.
Do you know which region it was collected in?
I will now go through with a breakdown of what I was able to interpret from
the data I received.
The good news is that 45% (17) of respondents believe that they're Mandarins
generally thrive in their aquariums.
7.5% (3) said they didn't know due to only having had them a short time
(between 2 and 7 months), although this didn't seem to stop 3 others with
only similar lengths of experience saying that theirs were thriving
22.5% (10) were just hanging in there. The length of time that these
Mandarins had been kept for and were still alive ranged between 4 and 24
months. Some of the respondents said that they suspected that their
Mandarins would soon be going downhill due to the microfauna population
starting to run out.
22.5% (10) were going downhill. Just about all of the respondents whose
Mandarins were going downhill said it was due to the micro-fauna on their
rock running out. The others that didn't mention food running out, didn't
speculate at all on why they were going downhill.
Spawning Behaviour
Only 10% (4) respondents had had Mandarins go through spawning behaviour in
their tanks but only two of them reported any resulting eggs on a regular
basis. Of the two that
pairs that regularly produced, one pair was described as apart during the
day but together at night. The other pair was just described generally as
paired up. This pair had spawned so frequently, that the female had died
from exhaustion.
A third pair had produced eggs once and was also described as apart during
the day but together at night.
The food that the pairs of Mandarins that went through the spawning ritual
had access to are as follows:
Regular spawning, majority food: in tank, majority of nutrition: in tank.
Extreme Enthusiasm: live mysid shrimp, copepods and rotifers
Enthusiasm: na
Reluctanly: live baby brine shrimp and dead bloodworms
Very Reluctanly: live adult brine shrimp
Ignored: frozen plankton, flake food, dead mysid and dead adult brine shrimp.
Regular spawning, majority of food: not stated, majority of nutrition: not stated.
Extreme Enthusiasm: live adult brine shrimp, live mysid shrimp, copepods
Enthusiasm: dead adult brine shrimp, live baby brine shrimp, amphipods
Reluctantly: live bloodworms
Very Reluctanly: Formula1, Formula 2, frozen seafood, flake food, pellets
Ignored: n/a
Only one spawn witnessed, majority of food: added, majority of nutrition: 50/50.
Extreme Enthusiasm: copepods
Enthusiasm: gut-loaded brine shrimp
Reluctanly: dead adult brine shrimp
Very Reluctantly: n/a
Ignored: n/a
Spawning behaviour but no spawn, majority of food: "definitely from what is available in the tank", majority of nutrition: "definitely from what is available in the tank".
Has only witnessed female eating "brine shrimp,... copepods and other small,
unidentified critters that live in [the] rock". It appears therefore that
the male must also be eating the same stuff but the respondent had not seen
this occur.
20% (8) had reported keeping more than 1 Mandarin at a time. Out of these
50% had behaved favourably toward each other and stayed together during the
day. Out of the other 50%, 2 "pairs" had had one kill the other and the
other 2 "pairs" couldn't care less about each other.
It is interesting to note that all but one of these pairings were considered
to be thriving. The odd one was considered to be going downhill but this was
one of the ones that was going through the spawning behaviour but had
produced no eggs.
Food Types
A complete breakdown of the numbers of foods taken by Mandarins and their
corresponding enthusiasm to them is below but I have created a quick
reference list here.
It is ordered in two ways. The first listing orders the percentage of
Mandarins that took a particular food out of all the Mandarins that were
offered that food. The second list orders the percentage of Mandarins that
took a particular food with any enthusiasm (ie, scored a 1 or a 2 in the
survey) out of all the Mandarins that were offered that food. Personally, I
prefer the second list because it is listed by enthusiasm which means that
Mandarins are most likely to eat these foods. The first list just shows a
range of foods that Mandarins may eat, but not with how much enthusiasm they
are likely to eat it.
After the percentage for each food, I have provided the number of Mandarins
that were offered that food in order to give an idea of how relevant the
percentages are. Obviously, the higher the number of Mandarins that were
offered the food, the more likely the percentage derived is accurate for
Mandarins in general.
List 1 - Percentage of mandarins that took a food out of all mandarins offered that food
Food Type
% Accepted
Copepods
100% 34 with access to this food
Mosquito Larvae
100% 1 with access to this food
Gut-Loaded Brine Shrimp
100% 1
Frozen Shrimp
100% 1
Live Bloodworms
100% 1
Amphipods
94.11% 17
Rotifers
90% 10
Live Adult Brine Shrimp
80% 30
Live Blackworms
80% 5
Live Baby Brine Shrimp
76.47% 17
Live Mysid Shrimp
75% 4
Live Daphnia
75% 4
Dead Mysid
60% 5
Dead Daphnia
60% 4
Dead Adult Brine
59.25% 27
"Formula 2"
57.14% 7
Freeze Dried Tubifex
50% 2
"Formula 1"
50% 10
Dead Bloodworms
44.44% 9
Frozen Seafood
35.71% 14
Flake Food
18.51% 21
Pellet Food
14.28% 14
List 2 - Percentage of mandarins that took a food ENTHUSIASTICALLY out of all mandarins offered that food
Food Type
% Accepted
Copepods
100% 34 with access to this food
Mosquito Larvae
100% 1 with access to this food
Gut-Loaded Brine Shrimp
100% 1
Amphipods
94.11% 17
Rotifers
70% 10
Live Adult Brine Shrimp
46.6% 30
Live Blackworms
40% 5
Live Baby Brine Shrimp
52.94% 17
Live Mysid Shrimp
75% 4
Live Daphnia
25% 4
Dead Mysid
20% 5
Dead Adult Brine
29.63% 27
Freeze Dried Tubifex
50% 2
Dead Bloodworms
22.22% 9
Pellet Food
14.28% 14
Breakdown of individual foods
Copepods
85% of the respondents had reported their Mandarins having access to
Copepods with results as follows:
Extreme Enthusiasm
33 (97%)
Enthusiasm
1 (3%)
Total
34
All of the respondents that said that their Mandarins got most of their
nutrition from within the tank (75%) also had access to Copepods. 100% of
Mandarins with access to Copepods took them enthusiastically.
Live Adult Brine Shrimp
75% of the respondents had reported their Mandarins having access to live
adult Brine shrimp with results as follows:
Extreme Enthusiasm
11 (36.6%)
Enthusiasm
3 (10%)
Reluctantly
5 (16.6%)
Very Reluctantly
5 (16.6%)
Ignored
6 (20%)
Total
30
So, it appears that 46.6% of Mandarins offered live adult Brine shrimp had
taken them with any enthusiasm. 80% had taken them when offered though.
It is interesting to note that out of all of the brine shrimp taking
Mandarins, all but 7 were considered to get most of their nutrition and food
from what is available in the aquarium. 2 of the 7 were "don't know"s.
Dead Adult Brine Shrimp
Extreme Enthusiasm
5
Enthusiasm
3
Reluctantly
6
Very Reluctantly
2
Ignored
11
Total
27
29.63% of Mandarins offered dead adult Brine shrimp would take them with any
enthusiasm. 59.25% had taken them when available, though.
2 of the Mandarins that had taken dead adult Brine with any enthusiasm and
one that had taken them reluctantly, had not taken live adult Brine at all.
This brings the total percentage of Mandarins taking any form of adult brine
shrimp to 67.5% but with only 40% taking them with any enthusiasm.
Live Brine Shrimp Nauplii
Extreme Enthusiasm
5
Enthusiasm
4
Reluctantly
4
Ignored
4
Total
17
76.47% of respondents Mandarins took live Brine shrimp nauplii although only
52.94% took them with any enthusiasm.
Dead Brine Shrimp Nauplii
Ignored
3
Live Bloodworms
Reluctantly
3
Very Reluctantly
1
Total
4
100% offered were taken but none enthusiastically.
Dead Bloodworms
Extreme Enthusiasm
2
Reluctantly
1
Very Reluctantly
1
Ignored
5
Total
9
44.44% offered were taken but only 22.22% enthusiastically.
Live Blackworms
Extreme Enthusiasm
1
Enthusiasm
1
Reluctantly
1
Very Reluctantly
1
Ignored
1
Total
5
80% offered were taken but only 40% enthusiastically.
Dead Blackworms
Ignored
1
Live Daphnia
Extreme Enthusiasm
1
Reluctantly
2
Ignored
5
Total
8
75% offered were taken but only 25% enthusiastically.
Dead Daphnia
Very Reluctantly
3
Ignored
2
Total
5
60% offered were taken but none enthusiastically.
Live Mysid Shrimp
Extreme Enthusiasm
2
Enthusiasm
1
Ignored
1
Total
4
75% offered were taken AND enthusiastically.
Dead Mysid Shrimp
Enthusiasm
1
Very Reluctantly
2
Ignored
2
Total
5
60% offered were taken, but only 20% enthusiastically.
Amphipods
Extreme Enthusiasm
14
Enthusiasm
2
Ignored
1
Total
17
94.11% offered were taken AND enthusiastically.
Rotifers
Extreme Enthusiasm
5
Enthusiasm
2
Very Reluctantly
2
Ignored
1
Total
10
90% offered were taken, but only 70% enthusiastically.
"Formula 1" Style Food
Reluctantly
2
Very Reluctantly
3
Ignored
5
Total
10
50% offered was taken but NONE enthusiastically.
"Formula 2" Style Food
Reluctantly
1
Very Reluctantly
3
Ignored
3
Total
7
57.14% offered was taken, but NONE enthusiastically.
Frozen Seafood
Reluctantly
2
Very Reluctantly
3
Ignored
9
Total
14
35.71% offered were taken, but NONE enthusiastically.
Flake Food
Reluctantly
3
Very Reluctantly
2
Ignored
16
Total
21
18.51% offered were taken but NONE enthusiastically.
Pellet Food
Extreme Enthusiasm
2
Very Reluctantly
1
Ignored
11
Total
14
14.28% offered were taken AND enthusiastically.
Freeze Dried Tubifex
Extreme Enthusiasm
1
Ignored
1
Total
2
50% offered were taken AND enthusiastically.
Live Tubifex
Ignored
1
Beef Heart
Ignored
2
Gut Loaded Brine Shrimp
Enthusiasm
1
100% offered taken AND with enthusiasm.
Frozen Shrimp
Very Reluctantly
1
100% offered were taken but NONE enthusiastically
Mosquito Larvae
Enthusiasm
1
100% offered were taken AND enthusiastically.
Frozen Plankton
Ignored
1
Prawn Eggs
Ignored
1
Feeding Frequency
This didn't really show any trends except to say that all except one person
whose Mandarin had access to Copepods was not actually providing them but
just relying on what was on the live rock in the tank. Amphipods were the
same.
Rotifers were interesting as 50% of those respondents whose Mandarins had
access to them said that rotifers were always available in their aquarium.
The other 50% supplied them.
Algae
45% of respondents had some algae in their tanks. These were described as:
Little
2 thriving 1 hanging in there 2 unknown (5)
Yes (no further description)
4 downhill 1 hanging in there (5)
Macro-algae
2 thriving 1 downhill (3)
Not often
1 thriving
Patches
1 hanging in there
Some
1 thriving
Trace
1 thriving
Very little
1 hanging in there
This is a total of 7 thriving (38.8%), 4 hanging in there (22.22%) and 5
going downhill (27.77%). This compares with the general health of the
respondents Mandarins at 17 thriving (45%), 10 hanging in there (22.5%) and
10 going downhill (22.5%).
As you can see, there is not a lot of difference, but if anything, the
picture looks worse for the Mandarin aquariums WITH algae although the ones
that responded with Macro-algae look reasonable but the numbers are too
small to really make anything of.
Tank Style
All bar 3 of the respondents had reef tanks. This is to be expected
considering that most of the forums that the survey went to were mainly for
reef hobbyists. The 3 that didn't have a reef, were fish only. 2 had had
Mandarins go downhill and the other had had them thrive.
Competition for food
This was an exact 50/50 split between competition for food and no
competition. General health compared to competition was as follows:
No competition
Thrive
13 (65%)
Hang in there
5 (25%)
Downhill
2 (10%)
With competition
Thrive
7 (35%)
Hang in there
4 (20%)
Downhill
7 (35%)
Unknown
2 (10%)
It appears that having no competition plays a big part in Mandarins being
able to stay alive in the aquarium.
Filtration
Filtration did not seem to play any part in the health of the Mandarins.
Tank Size
I have broken up the tank sizes into what appears to be some obvious
boundaries.
20 - 29 gal
Hang in there
1
Downhill
2
30 gal
Hang in there
3
Downhill
1
45 - 45 gal
Thrive
3
Hang in there
1
Downhill
2
55 - 58 gal
Thrive
4
Hang in there
3
Downhill
2
75 - 300 gal
Thrive
13
Downhill
2 (75 and 100 gal)
Obviously, this shows that the larger the tank the more likely it is for the
Mandarin to survive. Anything larger than a 75 G, you can be fairly
confident that the Mandarin will thrive but anything less than a 40 G and
you are guaranteeing your Mandarin a miserable existence.
Live Rock
It appears that there is a threshold amount of live rock that a Mandarin can
be sustained upon. That level is around 100 lbs. Some Mandarins will still
survive below this level, but it appears that they are far more successful
with this amount or more.
15 - 90 lbs of live rock
Thrive
7 (2 x 45, 3 x 55, 80 and 90 gal)
Hang in there
8 (25, 3 x 30, 40, 2 x 55 and 90 gal)
Downhill
7 (20, 30, 2 x 40, 55, 75 and 100 gal)
Undetermined
1 (90 gal)
100 - 300 lbs of live rock
Thrive
9 (55, 70, 90, 4 x 100, 115, 120 and 300 gal)
Hang in there
1 (55 gal)
Downhill
1 (58 gal)
Live Rock Per Gallon
I thought it might also be important to give some information as to general
health versus amount of rock. I have shown the sizes of the tanks for each
health level.
0 lbs/gal
Thrive
2 (45 and 100 gal)
Hang in there
1 (29 gal)
Downhill
1 (29 gal)
0.375 - 0.75 lbs/gal
Thrive
1 (80 gal)
Hang in there
2 (55 and 90 gal)
Downhill
4 (20, 40, 75 and 100 gal)
0.778 - 1 lbs/gal
Thrive
7 (2 x 45, 90, 120 and 125 gal)
Hang in there
1 (30 gal)
Downhill
1 (80 gal)
Not stated
1 (80 gal)
1.091 - 1.5 lbs/gal
Thrive
9 (3 x 55, 75, 90, 3 x 100 and 300 gal)
Hang in there
3 (30, 40 and 55 gal)
Downhill
2 (30 and 40 gal)
1.6 - 3 lbs/gal
Thrive
3 (55, 100 and 115 gal)
Hang in there
3 (25, 30 and 55 gal)
Downhill
1 (58 gal)
It appears here that somewhere between 0.778 and 1.5 lbs/G is optimal with
more rock than this appearing to be worse. The reason is obviously more to
do with the size of the tank and the total volume of rock than the ratio.
Live Sand Per Gallon
Live sand does not seem to play as big a part in keeping Mandarins alive as
live rock. This is probably understandable considering that Mandarins suck
their food up and doing this on the substrate results in a mouthful of sand.
I have shown the sizes of the tanks for each health level.
0 lbs/gal
Thrive
7 (45, 75, 80, 2 x 90, 100 and 300 gal)
Hang in there
5 (30, 40, 2 x 55 and 90 gal)
Downhill
4 (29, 40, 55 and 58 gal)
0.2 - 1 lbs/gal
Thrive
4 (2 x 55 and 2 x 100 gal)
Hang in there
2 (25 and 55 gal)
Downhill
5 (20, 30, 40, 75 and 100 gal)
1.04 - 1.83 lbs/gal
Thrive
7 (2 x 45, 2 x 55, 100, 115 and 125 gal)
Hang in there
2 (2 x 30 gal)
Downhill
None
I think there is a slight trend toward the more sand the better for the
smaller tanks, which does make some sense. Just about all the small tanks where the Mandarins were thriving had both
large amounts of live sand and live rock.
Mandarin Appearance At Purchase
60% of Mandarins purchased were considered fat.
Thrive
10
Hang in there
6
Downhill
7
22.5% were considered to have indented stomachs.
Thrive
6
Hang in there
1
Downhill
2
10% were considered average
Thrive
1
Hang in there
2
7.5% made no comment.
These figures seemed strange to me and prompted me to compare what foods
were eaten by the Mandarins with the indented stomachs compared to the fat
Mandarins. I suspected that the Mandarins with the indented stomachs may
have actually been so hungry that they would take a wider range of food than
the fat Mandarins. As it turns out, the Mandarins with the indented stomachs
are far "less" likely to take a wide range of food than the Mandarins with
the fat stomachs. In fact, in just about all cases, the Mandarins with the
indented stomachs would only tank what was on the live rock.
My next guess was that maybe the Mandarins with indented stomachs just
happened to be kept in larger aquariums or with more live rock. This turns
out to be the case. All but one of the indented Mandarins that thrived was
kept in an aquarium 100 G or larger and all but two had more than 80 lbs of
live rock.
I checked the fat Mandarins that thrived, and these included all the ones
that had been able to thrive in the smaller tanks (55 - 75 G) with only 60
lbs of live rock or more (although two only had 35 lbs and were in 45 G
tanks). All but two of the Mandarins that were "hanging in there" or going
"downhill" were in smaller tank with less than 60 lbs of live rock (except
for 2 cases that had larger tanks and more rock).
In my opinion, this shows either one of two things.
Fat Mandarins will adapt to smaller tanks with less live rock than those
with indented stomachs.
OR... When kept in smaller tanks, fat Mandarins take a long time before they
start going downhill.
I am hoping the former.
Cause Of Mortality
The overwhelming majority was starvation but a few were due to strange
happening such as being eaten by an anemone. Thankfully, almost 25% had not experienced a Mandarin death.
The numbers below will not add up to 40 as some people had given various
reasons for death.
Starved
13
No death experienced
9
Eaten (lionfish, anemone, mantis, cone shell)
5
Lack of oxygen (failed circulation pump)
3
Toxins
3
Crushed
2
Disease
2
Harassment
2
Jumped
1
Another mandarin
1
Moving stress
1
Don't know
1
Old age
1
Exhaustion (due to spawning)
1
Conclusion
Well, that is about all there is to say. I think something very important
that has come out of this is that probably the most important factor in
determining if a Mandarin will stay alive or not is the amount of rock, the
size of the tank and competition for food.
There are obviously some prepared foods that are more likely to be taken
than others, but what seems to determine if a Mandarin will survive when
bought with an indented stomach is still the amount of rock and the size of
the tank as it appears that starving Mandarins will not just eat anything.